Gandhiji went straight to the question on which he wanted to hear first hand from Dr.
Kagawa. “What is the feeling of people in Japan about the war?"
“I am rather a heretic in Japan," said Dr. Kagawa. “Rather than I express my views, I
would like to learn from you what you would do if you were in my position."
“It would be presumptuous for me to express my views."
"No, I would like very much to know what you would do."
“I would declare my heresies and be shot. I would put the co-operatives and all your work
in one scale, and put the honour of your nation in the other, and if you found
that the honour was being sold, I should ask to declare your views against Japan
and in so doing make Japan live through your death. But, for this, inner
conviction is necessary. I do not know that I should be able to do all that I
have said if I was in your position, but I must give you my opinion since you
have asked for it."
“The conviction is there. But friends have been asking me to desist."
"Well, don't listen to friends when the Friend inside you says, 'Do this.' And friends,
however good, can sometimes well deceive us. They cannot argue otherwise. They
would ask you to live and do your work. The same appeal was made to me
when I took the decision to go to jail. But I did not listen to friends, with
the result that I found the glow of freedom when I was confined within the four
solid walls of prison. I was inside a dark cell, but I felt that I could see
everything from within those walls, and nothing from outside."
Harijan, 21-1-1939
M. D.